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jMaki User Group Meeting slides and notes available on open source project Tigerfarm: https://tigerfarm.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=7936

Meeting Notes

Date: Thursday, August 23

Time: 9 am-12 pm PDT

Location: Ahwahnee Room 3120, Building 11, Santa Clara, California

Participants: Rick Evans, Arun Gupta, Chris Kutler, Mariana Kvitko, Anissa Lam, Greg Murray, Carla Mott, Ken Paulsen, Stacy Thurston, Norbert Truchsess

Action items

• Put up events page for upcoming Zen Conference
• Blog about making of, launching jMaki.com (send comments to Arun on what to blog about)
• Arun: Email Greg for access to add/remove sites on website
• Consider adding link back to java.net under Events ads
• Bring Eclipse experience up to par with that on NetBeans
• RC 3: documentation updates for users; update what is there, see what is missing
  • Write a book (with online content)?
• FCS 1.1 release: control when things get included in page, improve performance/experience
  • Work on corporate themes, stylesheets
• Things we'd like to see
  • Improved user experience releases
  • Arun: same support level in Ruby, PHP, all languages
    • Now: only certain language/tool/toolkit combos work
    • Ruby: get templates up to date
    • 1.1 samples (future: PHP, Ruby versions)...already have 2 “test applications” written completely loaded from Jar files
• New screencast: drop-down date on JSF forum sample
  • Block list/date idea for mashup
• Doris: email more sample ideas
• Post website links to Stacy's samples
• Future Facebook project: add PHP-based applications...info if user signed in, who he/she talked to...eye browser, fish eye, flicker
  • Get Sun executive attention
  • Catalog of widgets, must host
  • Downside: typecasting as facebook add-on
• References: who is using jMaki?
• Logo (focus on this after 1.0)
• Forum widgets (add-on)
• Grid widget inside which you can embed other widgets
• Revolving widget
• Spell checker autocomplete request
• Tech Days surveys
  • Get contact info from Doris regarding NetBeans boost
• Place to download jMaki after 1.0 release

Highlights

Website

• jMaki.com, built with jMaki
  • java.net frustrating; want to showcase what we're doing
• Came up Friday morning last week
• Left side: new widget “gravity menu”
  • Uses; jMaki menu model
  • Works on iPhone
• Middle: Block List widget
  • Put up events page for upcoming Zen Conference
• Site runs samples in PHP
  • Set of blogs on making of jMaki.com idea
• Developed in NetBeans in Java, exported to PHP
• A2 Hosting
  • $12/month with Static IP, support puts site back up within an hour
  • Also host Ruby on Rails
  • Have SHH, FTP
  • Free PHP sites exist but with ads
  • Rick: Site 5 is $6/month, 300 GB storage, Ruby on Rails support
• Arun: email Greg for access to add/remove sites
• Want to provide clean feed (porn problem)
• Promotion
  • jMaki.com URL is short, easy to remember, uses own technology
  • Many links back to java.net (maybe link to it under Events ads)
• Charting (new Dojo.9... pie charts?)

New Release Highlights

• Charting
  • Started in February/March
  • Follows same model as everything else
    • Now, there is proof of concept
    • Looking for: more interactivity, better function, look and feel, such as slide back/forth...it is hard to load value.
• Norbert revamped menus and data models
• Tables, trees standardized, behavior specified
• Publish and Subscribe: now easy, simpler model for AJAX
• Debug off by default with last release
• Can now run jMaki on Caucho (PHP based)
• Hosts
  • Many are PHP 4 (including Yahoo), some PHP 5
• Send feedback on anything broken with samples and site!

Roadmap

• Release this morning: 9.7.2
• RC 3 will be next week, August 29
• More command line support for building communications, samples
• Have NetBeans, Eclipse plug-ins
  • Address users who do not do those
  • ~ 8,000 total users; Eclipse slightly more users than NetBeans
  • Experience is better on NetBeans; bring Eclipse up to par
• Samples run on BEA 9.2 and 10
  • Grizzly sample does not work
  • 5 tool kits (time consuming!)
• Licensing; must be careful
  • Main reason Anissa uses jMaki charting
    • Field is moving toward jMaki
• RC 3
  • Filing bugs is very helpful
  • Documentation updates on how to use it for users
    • Update what is there, see what is missing
    • Write a book (with online content)? ...website is priority
• FCS 1.0 release: mid to late September
  • 1.1 release: control when things get included in page, improve performance/experience
  • Packer: 27 KB compressed to 16.8 KB, resource code obfuscated
  • Stability; stylesheets; show how to do theming for users' own corporate themes
• Like to see?
  • Improved user experience releases
  • Arun: same support level in Ruby, PHP, all languages
    • Now: only certain language/tool/toolkit combos work
    • Ruby: get templates up to date
    • 1.1 samples (future: PHP, Ruby versions)...already have 2 “test applications” written completely loaded from Jar files

jMaki Promotion and Blogs (Arun Gupta)

• blogs.sun.com/arungupta/tags/jMaki
• Mashup Camp graphic/speedgeeking...toolkits, languages, tools
• Accessing External Services Image
• Screencasts
  • #1 was technical keynote...jMaki on Rails for Dummies
• (Ruby: language, Rails: framework)
• Conversation on Phobos (sister project)
• Send comments to Arun on what he should blog about
• New screencast: drop-down date on JSF forum sample
  • Block list/date idea for mashup
• Doris will email more sample ideas

Stacy's Demonstrations

• Class for developers
• Samples on java.net
• Post site links to Stacy's samples

Conferences

• JavaOne^? room held 1200 people

Future Projects

• Facebook: add PHP-based applications...info if user signed in, who he/she talked to...eye browser, fish eye, flicker
  • Get Sun executive attention

Q & A

• Marketing: no money so do guerrilla-style
  • Facebook...catalog of widgets, must host them
    • Downside: typecasting as facebook add-on
• References: who is using it?
  • 8,000 have it installed (know through update center)
• Jmaki-powered Chicklet logo
  • Focus on this after 1.0
• Forum widgets (add-on), validization
• Spell checker autocomplete request
• Grid widget inside which you can embed other widgets
• Revolving widget
• David found jMaki by surfing around java.net
• Survey from Tech Days attendees (Doris)
  • What technology do you use? Dojo... What tools?
  • Are you using vs. do you know about it
  • Doris will forward Renita's contact info regarding NetBeans boost
• Place to download jMaki after 1.0 release

Meeting date is Thursday, August 23, 2007, 9:00 am-12:00 pm PDT

Location: Ahwahnee Room # 3120, Building 11, Santa Clara, CA, USA

Dial-in information:

Toll free: 866 545-5223

International: 865 673 9887 (this is a toll number)

Access code: 3714867

Campus location map: Santa Clara Location

Campus building map: Santa Clara Buildings

Announcements will be made on users@ajax.dev.java.net

Agenda:

• Opening and introductory remarks
• jMaki news
• Roadmap
• Project players
  • Greg Murray: Project Lead
  • Carla Mott: Developer
  • Norbert Truchsess: jMaki Java coding
  • QXO: Localization efforts
  • Ludo Champenois: NetBeans plugin
  • Ahmad Zawawi: ?
• Architecture
• Project overview which includes: software, demos, documentation, and training material
• Suggested group enhancements
• Closing statements